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Old 13th December 2007, 12:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My ingame alias is risen. STEAM_0:1:2038934 is my STATIC steamID.

You have banned cafe ID's that get reset whenever I restart steam, which is no biggie. I Just wanted to know why I was banned from the TOG CSS server. If you're under the impression that i'm cheating, you should review the demo that you took of me, or submit it to auspb. I can assure you that i'm entirely legitimate. If however you banned me for another reason, please let me know. This is about the fourth time I have been banned from the server.

Please email me if you wish to speak in private.

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Old 13th December 2007, 01:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi there Risen

I will bring your query to the attention of our CS:S Divisional Captain, who will get back to you with a response.

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Old 13th December 2007, 01:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Risen,

I've recorded a few Demos and they are currently being reviewed by the Division. I will contact you soon with our findings.
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Old 13th December 2007, 02:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi. Im tired.

Demos reviewed. Blatant wallhacking and aimbotting. I believe 2 of your accounts were banned? ether way the permanent ban remains. Find somewhere else to play or get yourself a new steam_id if you want to come back to our server and clean up your act or we will have to ban you again.

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If you're under the impression that i'm cheating, you should review the demo that you took of me, or submit it to auspb.
Great demos drac. We dont submit our demos to anyone outside of TOG but if youd like to be banned from other servers wed be glad to give them out GameArena admins or others...

*waves hacker away*
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Old 13th December 2007, 11:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi. Im tired.

Demos reviewed. Blatant wallhacking and aimbotting. I believe 2 of your accounts were banned? ether way the permanent ban remains. Find somewhere else to play or get yourself a new steam_id if you want to come back to our server and clean up your act or we will have to ban you again.

Great demos drac. We dont submit our demos to anyone outside of TOG but if youd like to be banned from other servers wed be glad to give them out GameArena admins or others...

*waves hacker away*
As i'm playing from an internet cafe it would be unwise of me to hack anyway. I would like to see those demos, or you could submit them to a GA admin who will probably laugh themselves sensless at you. I have decent clue and I use my head, my sound, and my map knowledge. In fact, if anything, my aim is what I can improve on. I only asked as a courtesy to get unbanned, if I want to play on your server, which I genuinely do, I can change my alias, and get a new steam ID in a second. If I wanted to be malicious and "hack" your server I would have done it. I believe the way i've approached this is in a mature fashion, and I think you should get an outside opinion on your demos. I'm VERY very interested in watching them myself.

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Find somewhere else to play or get yourself a new steam_id if you want to come back to our server and clean up your act or we will have to ban you again.
I'm not making any threats, but if I WAS hacking, and I wanted to degrade the gameplay of all on the server thats what I would have done. It's absolutely no trouble for me to evade any ban you put on my id's/ip. As i'm a legitimate member of the CSS community, I believe that its your server, and yours to do with what you will, but I dislike being disreputed by "tired" demo reviewers.

I'm an active lan gamer, I attend Queensland CSS Lans, and I have played/slutted for teams who are in the top 5 teams of Australia.

Once again, I urge you to get an outside opinion, from somewhere like auspb.com or gamearena.

Edit: If you hosted the file on filefront and submitted a link to forums such as gotgames.com.au, the whole community could judge me.

Cheers. Risen.
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Have messaged At1wit3D to let him know.
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Old 13th December 2007, 12:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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OK, yes, we will use to 3rd parties opinions to also confirm any judgements layed down by the CSS division if needed.

You must understand that CSS is one of the most hacked games around and will continue to be...so knowing that hard and fast judgements have to and will be made internally, instantly.

But in saying that, this is our CSS server, and its for casual fun for TOG members and friends. So if WE being the majority of the CSS division decides ultimatley someone is not above board with their 'leet skillz' then being banned from the TOG server is all you get...if someone is going to complain on a ban from 1 server at the risk of being banned from most australian servers, then that is a risk im about to take.

Thankyou for your time risen and good luck.

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OK, yes, we will use to 3rd parties opinions to also confirm any judgements layed down by the CSS division if needed.

You must understand that CSS is one of the most hacked games around and will continue to be...so knowing that hard and fast judgements have to and will be made internally, instantly.

But in saying that, this is our CSS server, and its for casual fun for TOG members and friends. So if WE being the majority of the CSS division decides ultimatley someone is not above board with their 'leet skillz' then being banned from the TOG server is all you get...if someone is going to complain on a ban from 1 server at the risk of being banned from most australian servers, then that is a risk im about to take.

Thankyou for your time risen and good luck.
There is no risk involved here, I was not cheating.

Being a public server is just that. Members of the public community can access it. And if someone happens to be better than you, why should that be a reason to ban them? For a mature aged gamer community, thats not so mature.
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Old 13th December 2007, 12:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I wish hed just say something like "Thanks for getting the demos reviewed again its a great stance you have on cheating and i hope to be allowed back into your server" or something?

Can we get a thread lock until this is resolved plz?
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I wish hed just say something like "Thanks for getting the demos reviewed again its a great stance you have on cheating and i hope to be allowed back into your server" or something?

Can we get a thread lock until this is resolved plz?
Well it is good you're taking a stance on cheating, however being so hasty to ban me, when i'm legitimate makes me fairly frustrated. I look forward to this being resolved positively, and hopefully an outside opinion can clear me.
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