rule changes for bf2142 server

I noticed on your rules while connecting (yeah, I have read the rules :P ) that it mentions "No Ramming". This is very vague and I've seen plenty of arguments over this due to people interpreting it differently. I assume that APCs ramming cars is alright and based on how some of your members play, it must also be fine to jump out of cars as they ram into other cars.

If the thing you're talking about is when ppl jump out of transports and let them fall on enemy vehicles, it might be worth changing it so the rules say "no air sacrifice ramming" as this would prevent many arguments and kick votes against me. If I'm in a stronger vehicle than the enemy (eg APC vs car), I sometimes ram them in a way so that I still survive. It's extremely difficult to achieve and many players wrongly assume I'm just trying to commit suicide and kill us all.

I forgot to specify - when I said I ram them so that I still survive, it's also in a way so that my vehicle survives; I don't just jump out and let the vehicles collide

[Redgum]

Cyber - your interpretation (as I read it) is correct.
1.The 'no ramming' rule refers to Air transport ramming into armor.
2. Jihad (RDX on a jeep, APC etc) is not considered ramming but a legitimate tactic.
3. Having a ground based vehicle accident (tank runs over a jeep or jeep on jeep) to inflict damage is not a problem at all.

I will have a chat to the DC to fix the wording up. It might not stop the kick votes :P but it should clarify the rules for everyone

thanks

[The Omen]

All fixed

[ColdCamV]

Well done Omen..I was actually getting annoyed at people diving their transports into me aswell...its so annoying

[Mujibar]

Interseting way for me to spend my first post but hey..

I really dispise this rule, I mean:

• Noone left in your transport (bailed out or dead)
• Transport low on armor or bound to die due to gunship
• Enemy armor in the perfect position for crashing into.

So why not? Theres nothing wrong with it, you'll find the occasional fighter or helicopter pilot that will (when noone else in fighter or heli) crash into the enemy to take some of them down with them..

I fully support using transports as a last resort weapon against the enemy when theres noone else in it but you and you won't kill any allies

[Redgum]

Mujibar - thanks for your interest in the TOG 2142 server. The rules are set and have been in place "as is" for over a year. If you find you have to use the transport in a ramming manner - you may find yourself kicked and or banned from the server. There are several public servers which still allow this practice, ours is not one of them.

We have tidied up the wording on the scrolling messages in the global text (every 2 minutes). Those scrolling messages and the text on the load screen are our way of being transparent with our server rules, and we encourage all players to abide by them.

[Uly-Shadow]

I see your just talking about air trans into armour, what about when the transports, i've seen it happen sometimes, ram into the gunships, or vice-versa, gunship on low health losing to other one, rams it. both down.

Ofcourse there are lots of accidental mid air crashes hell accidentally done it when just trying to turn the gunship to get a shot off. Just curious as to all that aswell. I play on the TOG server heaps its the best one there!

[Redgum]

G'day Uly.

The rule pertains to ramming armor, by definition its easy to rule on and there is little gray area.

Mid air collisions are too difficult to adjudicate as the more agile gunship should never be caught by the slower, less maneuverable transport and who is to say who was at fault. As for gunships hitting one and other because one has low health - again to difficult to adjudicate but im sure most expert pilots dont do this.
We dont have a rule for it, but thats ok, we dont want to turn our server into a nanny state that takes our server admins off line so much, that they dont get to play the game itself.

All we want is for people to play fairly and have some fun.

Now if you guys are interested in fist person shooters like 2142 and want to talk about the server or tell us some stuff you can also use Shooter Games: The Range as its our public forum for all things shooters.

cheers

[HenriDeacon]

On the BF2 server I admin we usually accept the first instance as an accident, and subsequent offences as a kick or possible ban. Mainly judged on how well we know the offenders playing style.