TOG - The Older Gamers

wytefang · 13th November 2008, 06:55 AM

Please use this thread to discuss my preview of Left 4 Dead.

Unknown · 17th November 2008, 07:47 PM

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...the Hunter and Smoker seemed far too easy to handle

On their own if you have your team-mates with you, then yes; if for whatever reason you're isolated (or more often on the harder difficulty, when they attack as a tag-team), then suddenly the hunter and smoker aren't so easy after all...

wytefang · 18th November 2008, 02:59 AM

Ah, that would make sense, I suspect. I did probably TOO good of a job sticking with my teammates (most of the time, except the occasional freak-out, as explained in my preview, LOL).

Thanks for reading!

wHiTeRaSTa · 18th November 2008, 07:51 AM

Cheers for the review, pretty well put the demo in a nut shell.

An interesting link here (i know i've posted it before) >> Left 4 Dead Information Thread << - Steam Users' Forums

Playing a boss in the "versus" mode will definately keep things interesting I'd imagine.

Cheers.

wytefang · 18th November 2008, 07:58 AM

I'm a bit surprised at the lack of responses in here. Considering both the magnitude and hype surrounding this long-awaited game, I'd think things would be hopping when it came to discussing this huge game. According to several gamer polls, Fallout 3 and Left 4 Dead are the two most eagerly anticipated titles of 2008.

Jigoku · 18th November 2008, 10:02 AM

Don't let it get you down wytefang. There are already several threads around the forum that have been discussing it for two weeks or more. And looking through the other threads here, response to articles seems limited at best.

Jakob_Pavlov · 18th November 2008, 10:18 AM

Nice write up Wytey!

I'd have to agree with pretty much everything you wrote. I enjoyed the demo, but am going to hold off on the purchase until I read some reviews and get some feedback on the game as a whole.

Loved the story about you freaking out and hiding in the closet! I just wish I could say it was out of character!

Thanks for sharing!

wytefang · 18th November 2008, 10:23 AM

Thanks fellas...yeah, I noticed that articles don't quite the response they used to. But it's all good!

Justin Kace · 18th November 2008, 03:03 PM

Nice write up. I've been playing since the demo was released and they have been making changes. I'm only playing the game on expert. If you are half decent with FPS's you really have to to get a challenge, and it is a challenge. Although now that I have my tactics sorted, if I'm playing with a decent team we can pull off a win as often as we wipe.

The smoker has definitely received a buff since the demo was released. He used to be an easy one shot kill, but all the games I played last night he took several hits to take down (except for one point blank shotgun hit). Also, as someone pointed out, the hunter and smoker need to attack tactically to make a difference, but what a difference they make if they do so. Their purpose is to pick off stragglers, or really make things difficult during a horde rush. The key point to both of them is that they both completely incapacitate a character as soon as they hit them, and unless another character comes to their aid, they will kill them.

Best tactic I have found for a horde rush, is back up to a wall or corner and one player crouches and just keeps pushing the horde back while the other players fire over his shoulder. Again, if the hunter or smoker can mess up this strat they can make a world of difference.

On expert it doesnt take that many hits to incap a player

One thing I am hoping for is more defensive scores at end of round. It seems like begging for trouble only displaying kills and headhits as score tallies in a game where cooperation is key. They need to also display incap rescues, team heals, zombies rebuffed, all that kind of thing. Otherwise the focus is on nothing but killing, and that's the last thing we need in an online game!

Justin Kace · 18th November 2008, 07:49 PM

And OH MAH GAWD. Just finished my first run through of a full stage in the full version and it is SO all that and a bag of potato crisps. It really is the bees knees, monkeys uncle, the real deal, whatever you like. It really blows the pants off the demo and if you really enjoyed the demo, you have GOT to give it a try. If you have buddies that are keen too, there is a four copy deal that sells for the price of three.

So bloody brilliant!!

13th November 2008, 06:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
wytefang Elite Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Coon Rapids, Minnesota Posts: 1,845	Left 4 Dead Preview - Zombies, Guns, and Explosives...oh my! Please use this thread to discuss my preview of Left 4 Dead. Last edited by Arep; 17th November 2008 at 12:27 PM.

18th November 2008, 02:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
wytefang Elite Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Coon Rapids, Minnesota Posts: 1,845	Ah, that would make sense, I suspect. I did probably TOO good of a job sticking with my teammates (most of the time, except the occasional freak-out, as explained in my preview, LOL). Thanks for reading! __________________ If you call the wolf, you invite the pack Geek "Cred" aka System Specs: Hand-built system with an ASUS P5E-32SLI Motherboard, Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 Quad-core CPU, 2 GB DDR2 PC6400 OCZ RAM, 8800GTX 768MB EVGA Videocard, 150 GB Raptor SATA 10k RPM HD, 250 GB SeaGate SATA HD, new MS Sidewinder Mouse, and a 24" Dell 2407 WFP Widescreen LCD

18th November 2008, 07:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
wHiTeRaSTa Elite Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,268	Cheers for the review, pretty well put the demo in a nut shell. An interesting link here (i know i've posted it before) >> Left 4 Dead Information Thread << - Steam Users' Forums Playing a boss in the "versus" mode will definately keep things interesting I'd imagine. Cheers. __________________ Sleep When Ya Dead XFIRE-whiterasta67

18th November 2008, 07:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
wytefang Elite Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Coon Rapids, Minnesota Posts: 1,845	I'm a bit surprised at the lack of responses in here. Considering both the magnitude and hype surrounding this long-awaited game, I'd think things would be hopping when it came to discussing this huge game. According to several gamer polls, Fallout 3 and Left 4 Dead are the two most eagerly anticipated titles of 2008. __________________ If you call the wolf, you invite the pack Geek "Cred" aka System Specs: Hand-built system with an ASUS P5E-32SLI Motherboard, Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 Quad-core CPU, 2 GB DDR2 PC6400 OCZ RAM, 8800GTX 768MB EVGA Videocard, 150 GB Raptor SATA 10k RPM HD, 250 GB SeaGate SATA HD, new MS Sidewinder Mouse, and a 24" Dell 2407 WFP Widescreen LCD

18th November 2008, 10:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jigoku Elite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 3,737	Don't let it get you down wytefang. There are already several threads around the forum that have been discussing it for two weeks or more. And looking through the other threads here, response to articles seems limited at best. Last edited by Jigoku; 18th November 2008 at 10:25 AM.

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18th November 2008, 10:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jakob_Pavlov Elite Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,186	Nice write up Wytey! I'd have to agree with pretty much everything you wrote. I enjoyed the demo, but am going to hold off on the purchase until I read some reviews and get some feedback on the game as a whole. Loved the story about you freaking out and hiding in the closet! I just wish I could say it was out of character! Thanks for sharing! __________________

18th November 2008, 10:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
wytefang Elite Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Coon Rapids, Minnesota Posts: 1,845	Thanks fellas...yeah, I noticed that articles don't quite the response they used to. But it's all good! __________________ If you call the wolf, you invite the pack Geek "Cred" aka System Specs: Hand-built system with an ASUS P5E-32SLI Motherboard, Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 Quad-core CPU, 2 GB DDR2 PC6400 OCZ RAM, 8800GTX 768MB EVGA Videocard, 150 GB Raptor SATA 10k RPM HD, 250 GB SeaGate SATA HD, new MS Sidewinder Mouse, and a 24" Dell 2407 WFP Widescreen LCD

18th November 2008, 03:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
Justin Kace Dangerous Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 325	Nice write up. I've been playing since the demo was released and they have been making changes. I'm only playing the game on expert. If you are half decent with FPS's you really have to to get a challenge, and it is a challenge. Although now that I have my tactics sorted, if I'm playing with a decent team we can pull off a win as often as we wipe. The smoker has definitely received a buff since the demo was released. He used to be an easy one shot kill, but all the games I played last night he took several hits to take down (except for one point blank shotgun hit). Also, as someone pointed out, the hunter and smoker need to attack tactically to make a difference, but what a difference they make if they do so. Their purpose is to pick off stragglers, or really make things difficult during a horde rush. The key point to both of them is that they both completely incapacitate a character as soon as they hit them, and unless another character comes to their aid, they will kill them. Best tactic I have found for a horde rush, is back up to a wall or corner and one player crouches and just keeps pushing the horde back while the other players fire over his shoulder. Again, if the hunter or smoker can mess up this strat they can make a world of difference. On expert it doesnt take that many hits to incap a player One thing I am hoping for is more defensive scores at end of round. It seems like begging for trouble only displaying kills and headhits as score tallies in a game where cooperation is key. They need to also display incap rescues, team heals, zombies rebuffed, all that kind of thing. Otherwise the focus is on nothing but killing, and that's the last thing we need in an online game! __________________ ~~~ JK "Sticks and stones may break our bones, but words can start a war." Currently playing: Empire: TW, SWGEmu, EVE Online, Dwarf Fortress, Demigod, CS:S, Left 4 Dead when I get the chance...

18th November 2008, 07:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Justin Kace Dangerous Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 325	And OH MAH GAWD. Just finished my first run through of a full stage in the full version and it is SO all that and a bag of potato crisps. It really is the bees knees, monkeys uncle, the real deal, whatever you like. It really blows the pants off the demo and if you really enjoyed the demo, you have GOT to give it a try. If you have buddies that are keen too, there is a four copy deal that sells for the price of three. So bloody brilliant!! __________________ ~~~ JK "Sticks and stones may break our bones, but words can start a war." Currently playing: Empire: TW, SWGEmu, EVE Online, Dwarf Fortress, Demigod, CS:S, Left 4 Dead when I get the chance...