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Old 12th April 2013, 05:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I somewhat enjoyed it but i dont think i will replay it.
Only keep it install for the dlc frankly its just not a game that i feel the urge to instantly replay :/
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Old 13th April 2013, 05:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Enjoyed this game immensely.

I love singe player games that have a great storyline and an engaging and immersive world. I loved Columbia's sights and colours. The effort they put into the characters, the voice acting and the music was wonderful.

The jingoistic / religious / racial overtones to the society were they created were both fascinating and disturbing. They did a great job in creating another alternative history / society / utopian vision, quite different from the libertarian / objectivism one they had for Rapture.

Gameplay was good, but not great. But I dont find gameplay is that big a deal for me in single player games. That's what multiplayer games are for. I have friends who wax lyrical about games like Dark Souls 1&2 and while those were good games with really good gameplay, I didnt find them as engaging because the story / world was garbage.

I hope we dont have to wait 6 years for the next original game from 2K.
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Old 14th April 2013, 11:07 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I found ti really interesting story, but there were some parts that didn't really fit to me, the lock picking by Elizabeth. That was just a gating system for story points and found it totally out of place. The settings was amazing and I loved the big men dudes or whatever they were called. Song Bird really needed to be alot more involved in the story, was practically non existent.
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Old 21st April 2013, 07:59 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I want to get it, but from what everyone is saying on how it is a short game, I think I'll just spend a fraction of the cost on the dual Bioshock release that has the first and second one in the same package.

Last game I bought was on discount... I haven't paid full price for a game since Dragon Age 2.
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Old 25th April 2013, 01:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm near the end, i believe, and thoroughly enjoying it. I find the combat refreshing, reminiscent of doom's chaos, even. Good fun, though as Drae notes it's not like mulitplayer. The story is great, even if it's getting a little out there, and Elizabeth is amazing, best companion AI in a game i've ever some across. She's not linked with the plot, she is the plot. She's not perfect, but she still makes the game an amazing experience.

I hated the first two Bioshocks. Particularly the first. The plot was cliched, the mechanic made no sense and tried so desperately to, the set-pieces were nasty, the gameplay was on rails, the moral choices changed nothing, the weapons were unimaginiative, the enemies were boring, and the the puzzles ne plumbing were like those flash games they make for middle-aged women. The environments and setting alone were beautiful, but the designers failed to take advantage of either of these. Let me explain further:

In a game like the original resident evil, or it's inspiring remake on the gamecube, the environment was tight, and a little hemmed in, like the first bioshock. You felt slightly trapped - and you were meant to. However, where Bioshock was on rails, and kept running you through level after level in order, the mansion of resident evil allowed you to revisit locations, to plan ahead and store items. And not only that the enemy respawn, and set triggers made things more complex when balanced against your limited resources. I never felt trapped in Bioshock, i felt bored. Oh look, there's the plot trigger or item i'm trying to reach - cue the lights going out, maniacal laughter, and a swarm of enemies. Really, Bioshock? Again? (+1 Asmodai)

System Shock, the game to which Bioshock was a spiritual successor, for whatever that means, got it right. The space station is closed in, you have to revisit locations, the Shodan AI running the station is constantly breathing down your neck, and you never have time to forget it. Each piece of the plot you uncover was startling, the weapons were a joy to discover each one, the interface was interesting, the puzzles were just that - some you could go at like a bull at a gate, or think your way through for faster results. You actually have to think to complete the game too. And, when there are set triggers, you know they're coming but you're not roped into how you approach them. You can plan ahead, set actual traps, peek corners, take other routes - save when the game fools you because some things actually have timers, only you don't know what. It's great.

I also played System Shock 2 for the first time about two years ago, and loved it. This was after i'd played Bioshock. Bioshock tried to replicate the same elements that worked in the first two games, esp. the plot, and came up with simplified, consolised porridge.

Bioshock Infinite works by not trying so hard. And simply because it has Elizabeth. There's nothing really new in it save her, but it doesn't feel like they've tried to shoehorn cliches in (save the racism/classism; sorry Drae ).



TL;DR if you think the "original" Bioshock was good, go play System Shock and System Shock 2, in that order. They're older, but they're much better games. Kolya's System Shock Portable is a good place to start.

(Note: the control system in the original system shock has been updated to include mlook. I never used it, so i'm not sure how well it works. But the right control method for the right game never hurts. You wouldn't try to play a fighter with mouse and keyboard, and so the slightly clunky FPS controls actually work with System Shock and it's environment )
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Old 28th April 2013, 08:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing your experience, i just bought it and installed. I must say i never played 1st and 2nd Bioshocks . BS: Infinite looks very attractive and for action part - its really great
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Old 30th April 2013, 09:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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DANNY--- U definitely owe it to yerself to play the 1st one if our enjoying Infinite. As graphically gourgeous as this last iteration is, the first really holds up well and the gameplay is really tight. It is actually a standard In that regard.....
Never did finish it but i think i will do that this very afternoon.thanx guys... or at least make a brave attempt at it.
(Butter soft is right on bout System Shock 1&2)
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