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Old 2nd November 2013, 08:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Very good post from Gladiuz7

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Well i was in anther part of TOG's forums looking to see what peoples thought where on anther game i was contemplating on getting and i made a comment
"Thkz guyz u just saved me $90 off to Star Citizen to buy me a ship." so came back today to continue reading the forums and one of our fellow TOGer's had Quoted me and said that he had canceled his SC kickstarter because SC is P2W , So i didn't want to hijack that forum post as to why SC is NOT P2W. So went and Googled (why is Star citizen NOT P2W ) Well blow me down what a rabbit hole that is, i truly had no idea how contentious the subject is. So instead of some big explanation of how it all works i found this .

Star Citizen - Is it Really Pay 2 Win? - RampUp [CC] - YouTube

I really hope this clears it up for peoples that are still on the fence about SC.
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Old 3rd November 2013, 12:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Great post and good video (directly linked below).

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Old 3rd November 2013, 01:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 5th November 2013, 07:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Go Gladiuz7!
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I like these sorts of incite vids and posts and reference to what was said.

The thought process from some gamers being Player A's with pre-release package purchase will be better off than player B's who have to earn it in game.

But when you think about it, would there be any player B's without the funding from player A's to begin with?
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Actually this is a pay to win...We pay to fund the development of this game...They make an awesome game...we all win.
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Actually this is a pay to win...We pay to fund the development of this game...They make an awesome game...we all win.
I like your (re)definition of P2W, sounds like a win - win to me

As far as the player A v player B thing, I'm covering the spread. I bought a modest entry package (the Legionnaire in my sig pic below) for alpha/beta access slot and plan to upgrade my personal fleet through gameplay. I'm sure I & RSI will find was to part me with my $ as development progress, but I'm happy to give them an ongoing revenue stream in return for roleplaying "perks" like custom npc henchman slots, hangar décor, etc.
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Could a mod make this sticky?

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Old 5th February 2014, 11:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Cannot make everything sticky. Just to continue the discussion and keep it on the top !

My personal argument is copied from a private TOG forum:



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For MMOs, with all the different donation tiers, I will always feel behind someone who paid $300 vs. me who paid the regular $50. The bigger package comes with a lot more stuff to give bonuses and further head start into the game than I will be.
I sincerely hope that for good crowd-funding game it would not be the case. I also think that with development of the "crowd-funding game community" such a behaviour will be frown upon and therefore not desirable.

Take for an example a capital ship pledge in Star Citizen - more than 20 times the lowest possible pledge. I seriously do not envy the one who had the guts to step into the unknown. It will take enormous effort to keep the ship operational and adequately manned not to mention the time & effort required to upgrade the weapons/engines and hope that on your first fully fitted voyage you will not be swarmed by zerg and lost all your upgrades.

We have 4/update 5 / in TOG fleet and it will take the coordination of all the community to keep them afloat. And I bet that you can be on one welcomed with open arms as the individual with capital ship will soon realise that AI will not replace the 10 player crew required. And you will get share of the profit (if any).

So for more money you do not have an advantage but instead an increased challenge: fair trade in my opinion for the pledge.. "

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