TOG - The Older Gamers

Father · 17th May 2003, 11:26 AM

PlanetSide
Star Wars Galaxies
World Of Warcraft
EverQuest II
Middle Earth online
the Matrix online

But since I've been playing PlanetSide I have to admit I do like em.
Strange to think we ever had fun playing Pong.

GrimReaper · 17th May 2003, 12:02 PM

I am a little concerned by this. The monthly fee (usually charged in US$) adds up to a sizeable sum over the course of a year, leaving less money to pay for other games. Also, if the MMOG takes developers away from traditional "pay only when you buy" games, thus reducing the number and quality of traditional games then we may all find our gaming costs increasing in the longer term.

Derelict · 17th May 2003, 12:15 PM

One of the main reasons why I'm not wanting to stick my toe into the MMOG water yet.

I think it's complete BS that with PlanetSide, you've got to pay $99 for the game itself and then expect to pay another $20-30 per month in subscription fees.

MMOGs should have a very low initial cost and then they make their money out of the subscription fees.

In saying that, the $99 or so for PS should either be dropped down to $30 or so, or, if I'm expected to pay $99 for it, I'd expect to get 2 or 3 months of included game time... not just the "Bonus One Month!" that "comes" with the game.

This is double-dipping the chip in my opinion.

I'm steering away from all MMOG for the moment.

Warbear_nG · 17th May 2003, 04:37 PM

The main reason that I can see they are doing it is simple.

If the game can only be played on official servers, which it needs to log on to, meaning you have to validate the software first to play, then you are doing it for the control. It means that nobody can cheat the system, and get a warez copy, meaning it''s 100% legit to play.

From a business sense it is totally understandable. I do however totally agree that the game should be at a cheaper cost initially. Indooroopilly here in Brisbane after talking with Solis at lunch on Thursday may be the best option as they have to compete thier prices with another store in the centre they are in and so sell the games at a much lower price than other EB stores.

But I don't yet know how much cheaper. Also, though a large number of the people playing it are going to have to be able to spare the cash to play, a lot of the dumb cocks out there that are too young will not be able to play, and parents will restrict thier payment. It won't stop all of them, but it will hinder them a great deal.

Solis · 17th May 2003, 06:16 PM

We all going to hell in a hand basket - an expensive one too!

Melski · 17th May 2003, 06:48 PM

They do it because you pay so much - and they do so little - it's easy. What sort of game play is there? No movie, no story, no nothing... "we allow players to interact with each other, that creates the story!"

The more you play the better your character/clan gets (and the more money they make). It's simple.

My ass hurts when I think about these games. It doesn't want to be screwed.

Fox · 17th May 2003, 09:43 PM

Perfect business sense.

Business make money and money makes the MMOG go round ...

I'm not buying into it though. Quality games but I'm supporting the 'pay once play forever' policy.

Rickety · 18th May 2003, 11:53 AM

It's quite simple really. If a player decides that he doesn't like the game and then quits before the first month, they still have made a 'regular' computer game purchase.

I've been playing MMORPG's for over two years now ... you guys are just a bunch of tight arses....

Pay up ... you know you'll love it ...

puppet · 19th August 2003, 12:15 PM

I have to admit that I am not very keen on paying $99 for a game that I then have to pay a monthly subscription for so I do believe that the initial cost should be dropped a bit, for instance I believe that anarchy online was only $50 and the latest instalment for UO was $45 and they included one month free.

Gripping aside though I have enjoyed playing AO for the past year even though it was buggy when it was initially released it has become a very solid game.

I have to admit I enjoy teaming up with other people and running around doing missions or the static dungeons. I am hopping that SWG will be as stable as AO is now!

I have been playing pencil and paper RPGs for a long time and enjoy that side of the MMORPG although there was never that much roleplaying in AO so hopefully there will be more in SWG.

Solis · 19th August 2003, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derelict

One of the main reasons why I'm not wanting to stick my toe into the MMOG water yet.

I think it's complete BS that with PlanetSide, you've got to pay $99 for the game itself and then expect to pay another $20-30 per month in subscription fees.

MMOGs should have a very low initial cost and then they make their money out of the subscription fees.

In saying that, the $99 or so for PS should either be dropped down to $30 or so, or, if I'm expected to pay $99 for it, I'd expect to get 2 or 3 months of included game time... not just the "Bonus One Month!" that "comes" with the game.

This is double-dipping the chip in my opinion.

I'm steering away from all MMOG for the moment.

LOL @ DERELICT paying 115 for SWG

17th May 2003, 11:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
Father Elite Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 9,299	What's with all these MMO games? PlanetSide Star Wars Galaxies World Of Warcraft EverQuest II Middle Earth online the Matrix online But since I've been playing PlanetSide I have to admit I do like em. Strange to think we ever had fun playing Pong. __________________

17th May 2003, 12:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Derelict Elite Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 10,789	One of the main reasons why I'm not wanting to stick my toe into the MMOG water yet. I think it's complete BS that with PlanetSide, you've got to pay $99 for the game itself and then expect to pay another $20-30 per month in subscription fees. MMOGs should have a very low initial cost and then they make their money out of the subscription fees. In saying that, the $99 or so for PS should either be dropped down to $30 or so, or, if I'm expected to pay $99 for it, I'd expect to get 2 or 3 months of included game time... not just the "Bonus One Month!" that "comes" with the game. This is double-dipping the chip in my opinion. I'm steering away from all MMOG for the moment. __________________ <Proudmoore: Deromg> - Gnome Warrior ... <Proudmoore: Deraman> - Draenei Shaman <Proudmoore: Derafk> - Dwarf Hunter ...... <Proudmoore: Derofl> - Human Paladin noobhats leader (the one that works) Noobhats Bank contents noobhats raiding signup Hrugh Hrugh Hrugh! - Tim Allen

17th May 2003, 04:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Warbear_nG Elite Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,465	The main reason that I can see they are doing it is simple. If the game can only be played on official servers, which it needs to log on to, meaning you have to validate the software first to play, then you are doing it for the control. It means that nobody can cheat the system, and get a warez copy, meaning it''s 100% legit to play. From a business sense it is totally understandable. I do however totally agree that the game should be at a cheaper cost initially. Indooroopilly here in Brisbane after talking with Solis at lunch on Thursday may be the best option as they have to compete thier prices with another store in the centre they are in and so sell the games at a much lower price than other EB stores. But I don't yet know how much cheaper. Also, though a large number of the people playing it are going to have to be able to spare the cash to play, a lot of the dumb cocks out there that are too young will not be able to play, and parents will restrict thier payment. It won't stop all of them, but it will hinder them a great deal. __________________ "I am here to stir shit, only because I was asked to!" CUSTOM EVE GRAPHICS •º• Black Scope Project Exec New Eden Radio DJ (as DJ MTX)

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Fox Elite Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia XFire: TOGFox <- Add me now Job: None Posts: 12,428	Perfect business sense. Business make money and money makes the MMOG go round ... I'm not buying into it though. Quality games but I'm supporting the 'pay once play forever' policy. __________________ TOG Sponsor $5 a month

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17th May 2003, 12:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
GrimReaper Elite Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sunny Brisbane :) Posts: 1,566	I am a little concerned by this. The monthly fee (usually charged in US$) adds up to a sizeable sum over the course of a year, leaving less money to pay for other games. Also, if the MMOG takes developers away from traditional "pay only when you buy" games, thus reducing the number and quality of traditional games then we may all find our gaming costs increasing in the longer term.

17th May 2003, 06:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Melski Deadly Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canberra, ACT, Australia Posts: 663	They do it because you pay so much - and they do so little - it's easy. What sort of game play is there? No movie, no story, no nothing... "we allow players to interact with each other, that creates the story!" The more you play the better your character/clan gets (and the more money they make). It's simple. My ass hurts when I think about these games. It doesn't want to be screwed.

18th May 2003, 11:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rickety The Dumbarse! Elite Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Coolum Beach, QLD, Australia Posts: 10,888	It's quite simple really. If a player decides that he doesn't like the game and then quits before the first month, they still have made a 'regular' computer game purchase. I've been playing MMORPG's for over two years now ... you guys are just a bunch of tight arses.... Pay up ... you know you'll love it ... __________________ "So Shines a Good Deed in a Weary World" - Willy Wonka <Proudmoore: Ricuid><Proudmoore: Ricior><Proudmoore: Dwingle><Proudmoore: Geko><Proudmoore: Ricsham> <Proudmoore: Sunnymoo>

19th August 2003, 12:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
puppet Competent Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 221	I have to admit that I am not very keen on paying $99 for a game that I then have to pay a monthly subscription for so I do believe that the initial cost should be dropped a bit, for instance I believe that anarchy online was only $50 and the latest instalment for UO was $45 and they included one month free. Gripping aside though I have enjoyed playing AO for the past year even though it was buggy when it was initially released it has become a very solid game. I have to admit I enjoy teaming up with other people and running around doing missions or the static dungeons. I am hopping that SWG will be as stable as AO is now! I have been playing pencil and paper RPGs for a long time and enjoy that side of the MMORPG although there was never that much roleplaying in AO so hopefully there will be more in SWG. __________________ I dont know karate but I do know crazy and I will use it!

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