Thanks .... Jeffmozzie, Thanks for making me feel welcome. It is great to be with Tog in this app. I did read your comments about the potential for a forum and I think I this would be a great idea. For those inthe clan not in Tog this poses some access issues. Some tactics sites and screenshots and some general information would be useful especially for those like me starting off. Some things are not obvious. All I can really say about clash of clans is it is a great game and it is definately worth a look for ant foggers looking at this. Patience is definitely required especially when your baby daughter grabs your iPad and uses all your precious gems..... All my best with RL. Crash.