My mates and l have been coding this ladder for a while now and we are now not 100% sure of what we will do with it. http://gaming.ausitech.com/ We have been working after hours for most of this year to build and debug the Gaming Ladder site. Our experience with TWL lead us to create an all Australian Gaming Ladder that is for the use of Oceania countries. New services include; 1. The Ladder. 2. Interactive File Sharing: were members upload new game files to the website. These are cleared for sharing by administrators(beta). 3. Online Gaming Status that tells you what server and game the member is playing (UD). 4. Software coding mentoring. The Gaming Ladder service is run by selected administrators in the gaming community and supported by Ausitech who has provided all code for the website, hosting, project management, and other finical support. The Ladder was coded from scratch and has cost Ausitech in the order of 300 hours of coding time and 60 hours of beta testing. Besides the small marketing benefit for Ausitech there is no direct finical benefit related to this website. A consequence of Ausitech moving away from traditional website design and moving more to the software development side of the internet, we are no longer considering paying for game server servers for our upcoming competitions. For the Ausitech Gaming Competition we are putting up 400 dollars in prices for each ladder winner, providing administrators/referees, private access to the Ladder and competition management, all for free. As you would assume CS is very popular and is apparent in the ladder:- http://gaming.ausitech.com/ladder.asp?game_selected=Counter-Strike At present we have 323 members and 85 teams and have had over 222,438 hits over the last month. We have decided to try and: - 1. Align the gaming ladder with a company that provides the ladder teams with game servers, or 2. Align with a data centre where we provide the hardware, or I should mention that the Ladder is coded in ASP, with all administration and related code programmed in ASP .NET. All logins are encrypted and are stored in a MSSQL database with a separate SSL encrypted login for the administration of the website (bit excessive ). If any of you guys want a ladder for a game please contact me Jeff@ausitech.com or refer to the contacts page on the ladder website. I am on MSN, ICQ and IRC. We would really like to see more ladders being used otherthan CS and tribes 1 Our main issue is that Ausitech is not willing to provide game servers. This is an issue we are currently addressing. cheers Jeff aka Alpha apologies for the long post.