Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers

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  1. Drac

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    Anyone else thinking about getting this, for $10 it seems like good multiplayer time killer.

    Pre-purchase Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers on Steam

    You also get the first expansion free if you pre-purchase, whatever that is.

    I used to play a bit of magic way back, it's probably been about a decade since I've touched a deck, but I always enjoyed the game's format and play style. Like every good and addictive game it's easy to learn but difficult to master. Would be keen on going a few rounds online with some TOGers in this rendition.

    From what I understand it doesn't offer full deck customisation like the real world CCG, but to be honest I always liked this game better when it wasn't about "who paid for all the super-rare kick ass cards".

    Seems to be a lot of game modes too. Offline co-op (hotseat type play I assume), online 2, 3 and 4 way battles as well as 2 vs 2. I'm not sure if you can play 2 player co-op versus the AI online though. I'm guessing most of the fun from this kind of game will come from the smack talk over voice comms.

    The only real downside I can see is that it was designed to be a 360 game first, but it's not a shooter, I don't see how you could screw up the controls for a video based CCG.

    IGN review of the 360 version here:

    Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers Review - Xbox 360 Review at IGN

    And a TSR video review for those textually challanged folk:

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    Post up if you're thinking about picking this up.
     
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  2. impulse

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    You've got to be kidding - RPG's moved beyond cards, board and dice years ago.

    The only people that still play these also still wear t-shirts with unicorns on them, a LOTRO gold ring and happy pants. :p
     
  3. Drac

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    Most Dice, Board and Card based games are not RPGs.

    But that's ok, I understand these things can be intimidating. You'd best stick to the games that fool you into thinking you're some kind of of invincible or respawning rambo and all you have to do is point and click. Someone like you should get decades of entertainment out of that routine. There's no need to bother yourself with any of these complicated strategy gamey things.

    :p
     
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    I have indeed obtained a decade of pleasure out of simple point-and-shoots. And this game is certainly beyond me; the mere act of rolling a dice requires much mental exhaustion on my part. :(
     
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    There aren't any dice in Magic. You should check it out, you might like it.
     
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    Thermal Ions Retired Captain

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    Never played Magic, in fact never played any of these type of "card" based games - so don't really have any idea if it's something I'd enjoy. :confused:
     
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    Yea, I'm just stirring mate. I used to play it school, in fact I still have a lot of the magic cards still buried somewhere in a box.
     
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    It's $10 thermal, worth a gamble really. If you like turn based strategy games that have simple rules yet lots of nuisance and depth then you'll probably like this.
     
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    If other TOGgers get it, I definitely will. My attempt at getting TOGgers onto Alien Breen: Impact evidently hasn't worked. :(
     
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    I looked at Alien Breed, but it was only 2 player Co-op. :(

    If it was 4 player I'd be all over it, but it's just not the kind of game I'd enjoy playing solo and 2 player co-op always seems lacking.

    This at least has 4 player free for all and 2 v 2 modes.
     
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    I've had it preordered for a while and it's good to see a few TOGs are getting it too.
    Bring on tomorrow! :)
     
  12. Thermal Ions

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    Ended up picking it up to have a look. As Drac pointed out it's a cheap way to get a feel for it - hell of a lot cheaper than buying all those physical cards.
     
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    Pre-ordered MtG

    Enjoyed the original. See how this one goes.
     
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    Magic (card game) at tournament level was extremely deep and strategic; Deck Construction was a real art - but unfortunately it suffered to ruthless marketing strategies that made the game to expensive, for many, to be worthwhile competing. You'd have to buy heaps of cards to stay level.

    Sealed Deck and Booster Draft tournaments were where it was at, for me - relatively cheap way of playing some balanced games.

    The biggest hurdle it has/had for becoming a decent game is the luck factor. In Poker, for example, you just bow out if you have a shitty deal - in Magic, you were stuck with it. No matter how good your deck was, you could draw a stuff that rendered your deck practically useless against a weaker deck.
     
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    Well, got it, played it.

    I didn't expect too much for $10, however it is disappointing.

    Deck building: Ok, I wouldn't expect the full deal in a game like this, but the way you add extra cards and it auto adds lands is terrible, gives rubbish results.

    Challenges: These are good, but relatively simple if you've ever played magic beyond a real basic level. If you haven't got much experience or are completely new, they possibly could seem difficult and don't help you to learn the subtleties some of them may require.

    Single Player Gameplay: I find some of the timers are very short, it can be difficult to time certain plays correctly. Lands are auto tapped, not necessarily the ones you wanted to tap in multi colour situations.

    Multi Player: Buggy, matchmaking system, had a hard time getting a game.

    Co-op: Apparently it's hot seat only or some such deal by the whining on the forums, can't say I've looked at it.

    Not a good product in my opinion, even the old dos based game still plays better than this :( Wouldn't recomend it even as a basic introduction to magic.
     
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    I've been thinking the exact Opposite Brootal. Well, the old DOS game is still good, but I relly like this one too.

    For $10, it's been a fantastic and very fun re-introduction to the game for me. I like the way everyone is limited to fixed decks with optional unlockable cards, it levels things out much more kinda like a class system in an MMO. The decks are all built for certain kinds of play, some are meant for fast wins, others really open up in the late game when you have a lot of land in play. There's lots to explore here. The strategic heart of the game is still very much there, and that's all I really wanted.


    Perhaps not the best fit for hardcore magic players who just want a carbon copy digital version of the CCG, but hell, you can play the real CCG online with a webcam if you really want to. As for not being able to manually tap lands, I haven't noticed any major issues. Land choice is predictable based on what stage of the game you're in. In any stage it will always pay attention to your hand and try to keep mana types for casting what spells you have available. If you're in the main phase it will place higher preference on keeping mana for summoning spells, in a combat phase it will place higher preference on keeping mana for instant or interrupt spells. At least that's the way it seems to do it.


    I didn't have any issues with multiplayer. It's all integrated into steam, you can join/invite friends that way, was easy and worked like a charm. It also makes use of steam VOIP, but there's a big delay. If you're using you own 3rd party program like Teamspaeak, Ventrilo or Mumble then make sure you don't map the same key as your steam > settings > voice key or you'll get a delayed repeat.


    The lack of online co-op is annoying I agree, I hope they add that in a patch. Apart from that I thought the single player campaign was a tad short. They could have done a lot more with that but *shrug*, for $10 I really can't complain. I'm sure to get plenty of hours of play form it.
     
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    Or, they can play Magic Online, which IS a carbon copy digital version of the paper game. And it's just as expensive....
     
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    hah, I tried to click the co-op button and got told to plug in an extra controller, you need an xbox controller on your pc to play co-op?

    Anyway, I have an MTGO online account, but I don't play that much for various reasons, I didn't really care about the online component of the game, but co-op would have been cool.

    My primary concerns are this game really seems like an introduction to magic, but completely fails to teach you how to play. For instance, some of the challenges, the timing of the play of cards is critical, but nowhere is this timing adequately explained. Teaching a new player about deck creation is also an important part of the game, while I didn't expect a full build your own deck experience, something like swapping cards in or out rather than just adding more new cards plus land to create a 90 card monstrosity.

    Auto-tap is a pain to me, forever tapping the land I don't want it too and with not much sense, take one of the challenges, you've got something like 3G 3B, you've got a number of green cards and one black card requiring B2. play the black card first, guess what, it taps 2B 1G, why leave a black open when you've only got Green cards in hand. It makes similar mistakes in games.
     
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    hmmm. Grabbed the demo of this but it's sounding like a mixed bag. Haven't played it since 1995 so no expectations whatsoever
     
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    Now I'm really not expecting much. Launching the game takes me to the steam page and stops there. Is there an alternative to launching content?
     

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