I know what you mean Drac - I'm still sitting on the fence at the moment. I was more of a MK guy when SF2 was out (in some circles, admitting that now brings a lot of laughter and rubbishing) and even now haven't really warmed to the characters or bothered learning many of the moves. There were a few fighters I loved on the C64 - the International Karate series especially. I discovered The Last Blade a few years ago which I thoroughly recommend for anyone who doesn't find the SF series that captivating. If I got SF4 now I would also need to build a proper stick for it since the PC in my cab won't run it. I'm thinking of buying another Sanwa + buttons, and harvesting the USB running gear out of one of these $10 fellows... but doing the enclosure will be a pain.