Troubling BFBC2 children

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  1. Spunkmeyer

    Spunkmeyer Getting Started

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    Yesterday I had an unsettling squad experience playing BC2.

    I joined a game and was put into a squad with three children. Now by "children" I don't mean teens or even tweens, when I asked how old they were I got these responses: ten,eight, and seven. I don't have children so I have absolutely no right to discuss parenting, but come on... SEVEN?!?:eek: BC2 is very violent (there's a surprise) and has some pretty foul language built into the game, not including what you occasionally hear over chat. I guess that "Mature" rating really means nothing to some people.

    I concede that the kids may have been temporarily unsupervised and merely gotten into dad's video game stash, but these kids were good at the game (which is disturbing on a wholly different level) and had obviously played many times previously.

    Good news is this: We won the round and we were the best squad... go figure.:D
     
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    Sadly this is becoming more and more common.
     
  3. FunkyJ

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    It's been that way since original xbox.

    I remember playing Mech Assault against two kids aged 10 and 8.

    Their dad was home with them, but he wasn't supervising them.

    Ratings are a suggestion. Even if backed by law, it's still just a recommendation and is more to make governments and adults feel better about it all.
     
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    Mecha-Wombat Well-Known Member

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    I know of some parents who have brought there 5 and 8 year olds GTA4

    games like this should not be in the hands of kids

    but I do play BC2 with my son on my lap but I will always play a sniper role and not get involved in close quarters when I do
     
  5. ColdCamV

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    Its normally the whole"..kid sees..kid wants..parents get for kid so he will be quiet"..and in some cases it can also be an older brother who gets it and lets his younger brother play..or he plays it when his older brother is at work.

    Either way as King_Rocket has said..its becoming more and more common nowadays and theirs not really much we can do about it.
     
  6. Cadder

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    My little guy is 4.
    He proudly takes on the role of attorney-general in our house.
    This really wasn't that hard, since he asked me the question directly; "What games can kids play and what ones are for grownups?"
    So, since he can't read yet, I've taught him that if there's a game he likes the look of, to look for "what colour the game is". And he knows to look for the rating sticker.
    If it's Green, (G) he can play. If it's yellow (PG), he can probably play, but he's gotta ask if it's OK.
    If it's Blue or Red, then no. He's simply not allowed to play it, and neither are his siblings. The only exception is Burnout Paradise. It has an M rating, but since there are no "people" in it, there's no danger (imho) of him seeing anything violent enough to cause him permanent harm.

    FWIW, my 15yo rejoiced that he was now "old enough" to play games like GTA that have an MA rating. (and since he now lives with his mother, there's not much I could do to prevent it, but that's a whole other story). Up until then, I didn't even permit him to watch me play, because of the adult content.
    My other kids have sat and watched me play the likes of MAG, but I usually play :
    (a) after their bedtime, and
    (b) with headphones on so they can't hear the language

    Back on topic: I was in a game of MAG a few weeks ago, same story. The squad leader was 12. He was OK as far as playing and K/DR goes, but he had no grasp of tactics or what objectives to set as FRAGO.
    I was also in a MAG game with a squad of other TOGgers, and we ended up with a kid in the squad... until he had to drop out mid-game to go and have his dinner, or do chores or something. :p
     
  7. Ancient_One

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    Are you talking about colourfull language to express one's self verbally when you take one for the team.

    "Where's my f-cking support." :eek:

    Kids. No scense off priority in life. Gaming comes first, allways. Buy chips, softdrink what ever it takes to stay in front off that game and support your team mates. :twisted:
     
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    Those parents should be fined, incarcerated and sterlized. Not in any particular order.
     
  9. Fall-Of-Enosis

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    I'm with Cadder, on this one.

    My boy is 6 (7 in october).

    And he doesn't even WATCH me play games.

    They are WAY too violent for him.

    However we have a heck of a time playing the remake of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Remake on XBOX. ;)
     
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    So really what happened was they carried you for the round... :p

    No way are my kids playing at that age (they walk in now and are told to leave the room - daddy is shooting people... :p ). It's probably more that they'd destroy my scores. :(
     
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    My kids are 12, 10 and 7. They don't watch me play bfbc2 and I don't let them play the game themselves. My 12 yo asked to watch one day and I very reluctantly agreed. It took all of 5 minutes before he told me "they've got dirty mouths" and he left the room. The other two never watch me play and I only ever play with headphones on or the volume down very low.

    Some parents seem to have the "it's just a game what can it hurt" mentality simply because it keeps the kids quiet, occupied and out of the way. That is not acceptable. These are the same parents who will scream the loudest when asked "What's to eat biatch"
     
  12. ColdCamV

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    I agree with Ebony, I dont have kids of my own but when my girlfriend brings her cousins over (who are 8 and 4) I make sure that I turn the game off or any game rated above a G rating because they are at the stage of questioning everything and the last thing i want is for the 4 yr old girl to go back to her mum and say "cameron shoots people and they die" boy would that look good for me when we take them home.
     
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    Pretty amazing I ran into this thread, Just recently I had a very bad experience with children calling people names, and using racial comments. When I said to him yo look there's no need for all that trash talking kid. Plus I told him I would appreciate it if he didn't use racial comments. Goes to show the wonderful parent that allows their Children the wonders of name calling, noise making, whining ETC. When I get annoyed by these kids, and I start acting like them. it is time for me to get off the game and take a break and go take a nap........lol
     
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  14. Kiz

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    i agree it is up to the parents, and also bad when it comes to them using bad language..

    i had no problem letting my 8yr old nephew play BF2 and CSS even unsupervised for an hour or more, on multipul occasions, he loved it. (without consulting his mum)
    his mum would let him play GTA... which is alot worse off then bf2, bc2 ect, he would tell me.. "you run over and shoot hookers to steal their money"... (hes 12 now)

    i dont think bc2 is bad for a child expecially if they dont wear headphones / have sound turned off

    if they play with the sound off they wont hear any of the language used, if any.. and therefor wont use it in game themselves

    im sure back in the day parents thought games such as pacman, street fighter and alex kidd were bad for kids.

    there are more worse things in this world....

    i would rather see a 7-10 yr old playing a video game, then out in the streets on their own

    i like that idea
     
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    Children in general on XBL annoy the crap out of me. Most kids get online and talk so much smack and things, it's amazing their parents don't even realize it, and if they do, then they're bad parents.

    I remember back when I was in 5th grade, I was at the local mall arcades playing Street Fighter 2. I used to hear a lot of swearing and stuff because, well, I was around 18+ people playing the game at the time. What was interesting about the arcades though is that people couldn't hide behind a headset like they do currently on XBL, therefore you didn't have people spouting off the N-word, or other racial slurs, or degrading things.

    I don't think it's the games so much that cause children to do bad things over XBL, I think it's the fact that they can talk to people over XBL and hear others talking to them, saying things they shouldn't be hearing.

    At the arcades playing SF2, did I hear bad stuff? Sure, but I guess the way my parents raised me, I knew the difference between what's a good vocab and what's not. I'm still here and normal...I think lol.
     
  16. Kiz

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    i agree, kids talk over mic because they can and its new and interesting to them,
    when you think about it,, hearing someone bad mouth in any game is more or less the same as hearing them bad mouth in an arcade, movie and the real world, its the way they are brought up that makes it different...
     
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    Yeah, agreed. I remember at the arcade when I would beat a older kid (rarely happened) at SF2, he'd give me a high five or something, and say good game. Some would get really cocky and talk trash, and I laughed it off. A lot of people in the old school arcade scene, specifically for Street Fighter and other fighting games, would talk smack, but it was stuff that people laughed off. You didn't just randomly turn to the guy that was practically shoulder to shoulder with you and yell, "FU YOU SCRUB!" If you did that, you'd be liable to start a fight, which I had never seen EVER in all my many, many years of arcade gaming.

    It's the internet that people hide behind. They do it on forums too. Everyone hides behind the internet because it provides you with that scope that you're probably never going to meet the other person or ever see them, so they figure, why care?

    At times I will drink on the weekends and get a good buzz going where I love going into Halo to talk smack because there's proximity chat, but I don't just blatantly talk it. Typically little things like the other night in the Reach beta, this one guy's name was OregonPro. So everytime I had a chance to kill him, I'd say, "So OregonPro, what are you pro at? It certainly isn't this game" I know it probably shows my immature side, but hey, we all have that at times right?

    It really burns me up though when kids are playing these M-rated games. Lots of parents buy their kids these M-rated games thinking it's okay because it's a video game. Though it's funny they don't let their kids watch rated-R movies... typical hypocrite fashion.
     
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    Just played the worst game i think i have ever played in bc2...joined the game was all good had a 12 yr old talking to me and the rest of the squad on the headset telling us he "wagged school so he could play bad company and that his mum didnt care because she was going to the casino anyway..i thought nothing of this..he then went on to say he loved getting headshots and hated dying" understandable i thought...until we were playing..he t-bagged every player he killed..even ones he didnt..and made sure to unload a whole clip into their body when they died.

    Playing atamaca harbour..he was the worst..he was on the other team due to not many players..he then grabbed the helicopter and killed us as we tried to cap flags..again understandable its the whole point of the game..he then flew straight at the uncap..parachuted out and let the other pilot fly and then stole our helecopter..we were like alright lets shoot them out of the sky then..we thought..if it were only that simply..they circled the uncap killing us the moment we spawned..we couldnt get a cap because you would be lucky to take 5 steps before dying..that toppled with the rest of their team swarming our uncap because they werent getting any kills...we just gave up and said stuff it no point..so our whole team left
     

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